iJango – The Next LocalAdLink
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Everyone knows how I love LAL, well it appears that iJango is on the verge of trying to repeat history. David Kyle first mentioned this on Twitter and apparently they’ve got a meeting planned for Charlotte. I’ll have more updates on iJango as they take place.
Update July 21, 2009:
Do you think people are interested in reading about the latest hype…just a snapshot of my traffic over the past hour.
Here it is.
Hi Brad,
I hope you come back to visit the site more. Its going to be an interesting ‘launch’ with all of the spam already happening with just “ijango” in the search engines.
As the Reginal Director at iJango, I’m hoping you can enlighten us as to how reps get paid. From looking at your slides about iJango on slideshare.com, one can assume its simply an affiliate shopping portal: shoptoearn.net sound familiar?
As the pitch goes:
“Just Buy at “Target” which you normally do, and get 2% back. Then your ‘downline’ uses the site and you get a % back from them too.”
What most shopping portals don’t mention is the commission on affiliate marketing may be 8% and the rep gets only 2%. Combining that 6% to everyone that shops online, you guys make a nice chunk of change.
So….hows the model of iJango? Or are we going to see another spam session like LocalAdLink everywhere we turn like LocalAdLink?
http://twitter.com/bigdonnieb023
in fact we already see the ‘video’ spam of new Youtube registrants uploading the same video over and over to start the spamming of search results.
Just check out the “Related Videos” on the side panel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBkm5iwgF48
users such as:
ijangonews
searchijango
registerijango
ijangosonic2009
ijangoburgerkung
It already is starting to look like I’ll get to punch holes is this MLM program too.
Just read this recent iJango review, it pretty much explains everything about the scam:
http://www.clicksniper.com/ijango-scam-cameron-sharpe/
Hi Keith,
I know for a fact any time someone starts talking about a new MLM, the anti scam artist come out of the wood works.
Once the site launches on August 1st, everyone will see that this portal is so much more than a shopping portal. This site will allow the user to take everything they do on the internet put it into one portal and never have to open another browser again. Social Networking, Search, Email, Shopping, News, Weather, Blogging, etc.etc. It will all be in one central location allowing the user to completely organize their internet experience.
With that said, you can imagine how the ad dollars, etc. will add up. The independant rep will have the opportunity to capitalize on those $$ by driving traffic to the portal through their site.
As you mentioned, this thing is creating so much buz and hasn’t even launched yet. The anti-scammers can’t get a handle on it and it is driving them nuts. Pulling up dirt on Cameron and his associates, to smashing MLM’s altogether. These same people talked the same noise about Amway years ago and still do today. Amway is the largest MLM in the world. Sitting right on top of Avon and Mary Kay respectively.
Avon and Mary Kay are household names. People don’t have much to say about these MLM’s, pyramid schemes, ponzi schemes or what ever you want to call them. Reason? It worked. My Grand Mother sold Avon for 50 years and retired to a happy life.
iJango will work too!
Cheers.
Brad,
Shopping Portal – shoptoearn.net – fail
toolbar – agloco.com – fail
http://fafdajalebi.blogspot.com/2007/12/aglogo-going-bust.html
(do you really want to talk about the security issues with downloadable toolbars? – I’d love to see the coding behind that- tracking surfing habits, pulling in personal data, does it steal data off your PC?)
Custom portals – anyone heard of iGoogle? or myYahoo?
The real scam comes from the hype. The name of your game is to produce the hype, sign up as many people as possible in as little time, then cut the cord:
Dec 2007 – http://fafdajalebi.blogspot.com/2007/12/aglogo-going-bust.html
Good luck, we will all be watching the epic Fail on this one.
Brad,
Do you lack brains as much as Cameron Sharpe does?
The very concept of iJango is a guaranteed failure!
Beside the software issues, the only way people could make money IS by recruiting more followers!
Isn’t this the very blueprint of the classic pyramid scheme?
Sure, looks like you signed up early so you’ve got reasons to be concerned there will not be a huge following, and guess what, there will not be, go to Vegas on August 1st and you guys will end up scalping each other because the room will be full of chiefs and no indians.
Get a life, try and EARN money instead of ripping people off.
Toledo Itus
PS:
Brad, you are free to post your opinion on this blog, all of the pro iJango blogs do not allow for different points of view.
The factual concerns being expressed about IJango include the following. Mr. Sharpe declared personal bankruptcy in 2005 in the Northern District of Texas. During a portion of the Court proceedings in late 2006, and as documented in the Court’s published opinion, he testified to an “unresolved drug and alcohol” problem existing in 2004 and extending into the time of the trial, Fall of 2006. He was also involved in failed singles marketing websites in Texas, some of which were shut down as a result of litigation, as well as his partnership with Mr. Beakey. The IJango team also advertises that a current travel agency will provide the billing software and infrastructure for IJango. This website is actually a MLM travel agency and is run by the Steve Smith family, and if one reviews that site carefully, it turns out that the travel agency will “turn into” IJango, with all the people currently in the travel agency keeping their same positions. These pieces of factual information would seem to be pertinent to a due diligence evaluation of the company. Second, one might ask why this information has not been provided to current “investors,” i.e. the reps. Food for thought.
I have a great idea. After reading all of the comments online (good and bad), I decided to “jump in”. I blow $150.00 easily on the weekends screwing around so $150.00 won’t hurt me (I think I can even handle the 19.95/mo). If you guys are right about the iJango opportunity being a scam, just another shopping portal, ect…, I’ll be glad to update you and let you know that I’ve lost $150.00.
Here’s my question; What if you’re wrong? What if it works? What if this turns out to be the best thing since sliced bread? I’m weighing my options….I ignor your warnings, it fails, I’ve lost a few hundread bucks/ I heed your warnings, it succeeds and I’ve lost an opportunity that rarely comes around in ones lifetime. How do you account for that concern?
Hi Dion,
I have a better idea. If $150 is burning a hole in your pocket, let me know. Simply log on to paypal.com and send it to info@ontopresults.com.
I’ll donate ALL of it to The Children’s Aid Society.
This way you won’t mind ‘losing’ $150 bucks, and you can feel good about sending it to a real organization that needs it.
Keith
Keith,
Thanks for your comment and I would agree that that’s a great idea too but you haven’t answered the most important question that I have. What do you say to me and my family if I was to heed your warnings and not pursue iJango but it actually turned out to be a successful business opportunity? I don’t know about you, but I’ve been around long enough to see it go either way. I’ve seen the ones that everyone predicted would succeed fail and I’ve seen the opportunities that many predicted would fail succeed. How are you guaranteeing your predictions and how would you feel about them if you’re wrong?
I learned a few years ago to only take advise from people who are in life where I want to be or who have something to win or loose as a result of the advice. As best as I can tell, you don’t have either. I do respect your opinions and I will update this blog with the results (success or failure) of the opportunity as I plan on giving it a full go at it.
Thanks!
Hi Dion,
Your logic is a bit skewed. You said:
“What do you say to me and my family…”
I surely hope your not relying on $150.00 in the form of an MLM company to continue the health and well being of your family.
I’ll be the first to acknowledge on this blog that I was wrong. I don’t have a problem admitting I don’t know something. Which is why I’m calling my car dealership tomorrow to get my car fixed. I do know online marketing however, such as the information I shared with everyone regarding LocalAdLink.
I don’t have a dog in the fight, as they say. iJango is not in the space I operate, but they recently visited (or have a few reps here) my ‘backyard’ (Charlotte, NC) and I feel its my obligation with my status in the community to make sure my next door neighbors and business owners don’t fall for another “get rich quick scheme”.
Keith,
Again, I respect your opinion of my logic being “a bit skewed” but your inability to answer the question demonstrates to me that you really don’t have one (at least not one that’s worthy of serious consideration). The fact is, you can’t possibly know. All you can do is give your opinion and you’ve done a fine job at expressing yours. Given your status in your community, I’m sure that you feel like you’re doing your neighbors a great service by protecting them. Since you really don’t know what the outcome will be, you may want to stay neutral until you see the evidnece of what you’re predicting. Remember, the bottom line is you really don’t know. What if you’re wrong? How would your community appreciate you then?
Thanks for your input and good luck to you!
THE INTEREST IN YOUR WEB SITE AND THE “IJANGO” LAUNCH IS THAT IT HAS BEEN REPORTED AS A FRAUD AND A PYRAMID SCHEME TO THE SEC AND WILL BE TAKEN DOWN SHORTLY. US “SMART PEOPLE” ARE ON TO IT.
Heard it all before. Amway, Avon, Mary Kay, Pre Paid Legal, ect.. have all been dubbed as frauds and pyramid schemes. We’re still waiting for them to be shut down. Of course it’s been about 50 years for Amway but they should be shut down any minute now. The smart people are dead on it.
Dion…I agree with you completely. $150 is nothing. I have become very successful in Multiple MLM networks. I read all the DIRT related to Cameron Sharpe and Steve Smith. It boils down to this. There is no possible way to not get back more then what you put in. I made my $150 back in 10 minutes (I have an advantage of course)I already have downlines with thousands of people. However anyone can make money with Ijango becouse of the way it is set up. The key is to build up people under you..Signing up hundreds of people as personal enrollees is stupid. You have to help the people under you get members. I build my members teams with them. Maybe Ijango will fail maybe it will succeed. None of us know for sure. All I know is the more blogs like this that pop up. The more people I have been signing up. So thank you Keith.
sincerely
Matthew Sky
I have been in for 3 weeks now and had over $300 minus my investment of $150 deposited into my account last week, the site launches in a few days and we are on track for launch. And by the way we have a patent pending that tracks usage, customers do not have to purchase anything just search,blog,read the news or social network. Good luck Smart People.
Hey rick13,
Thanks for dropping in on my site for over 5 hours. Are you that bored, or I guess in that time you’ve made by your calculations $4,500 bucks and you have nothing to do.
Let me guess, your another ‘troll’ that Googles “ijango reviews” and proceeds to let everyone know you’ve made a killing with ijango. You guys are hillarious. Us ’smart people’ know how to track people like you. Have you ever heard of a proxy server? You should if you are going to continue trolling on blogs and posting your millions.
Matthew Sky,
Sorry buddy, I don’t post ‘ijango’ affiliate links back to your sign up page so you’re screwed.
Rick13-”Tracking usage” is not a new concept. Nor is an internet portal that can be “customized”. And, Dion, I believe your question was answered when Keith replied “I don’t know.” As for myself, I simply won’t join because of how idiotic it sounded coming from my neighbor who tried selling me on it, and on every video I’ve watched of people pitching it. It all sounded like a bunch of smoke and mirrors, throwing statistics with no base at you, and zero logic whatsoever. Maybe you’ll make millions, though I seriously doubt it. As for myself, I’ll make my money the old fashioned way. By working. Because at least my paycheck is sure thing without any “initial investment” or monthly fee.
we have each our own choices and decision in life. sometimes we make smart moves and at times we also do fail. we consider of course other peoples’ view and comments but at the end it is still our own yes or no and whatever it is we just have to be ready for the consequences of our own doing. win or lose is the name of the game. but at least even if you lose you can tell yourself “i tried”. the last thing i don’t want to feel is being sorry for not trying. and besides there is no such thing as “sure ball” there’s uncertainty in everything.
ijango….let’s do it!!!! and laugh or cry at the end.
I’m wondering how rick made money when the product hasn’t even launched yet.
Please guys no need to lie about what’s going on with Ijango.
Next iteration of Cameron Sharpe biz opp will be a munge of all previous attempts called: BOHICA.com or maybe idingleberry.com
“Amway is the largest MLM in the world.”
So true, but that just makes it the biggest MLM scam in history…..the average or typical Amway rep makes less tha 10 bucks per week before expenses!!:
http://www.pyramidschemealert.org/psamain/news/MythofIncomeReport.html
Wow, sign me up! I love these people who brag about scamway as if there is money to be made with them, yet they do not sign up to do so.
I’m curious about the breakdown of commission percentages? Do any of the iJango reps know exact percentages that they will be making off of these so called “click revenues”?
Everyone has choices and its not your pocket the money is coming from.
Nope, but its my friends pockets and if they think they’ll get rich off the internet because they don’t know better and I do, then its my obligation as a friend to tell them the truth. Good luck in your sales with no website.
I help people with computers and a friend asked me about this, and I did some research since I had not heard of Ijango (which is how I found this site).
Aside from one of the leaders having a character that’s questionable, from the business side, it seems doomed to fail.
From Ijango’s perspective, they earn money only through signing up people at the Director level. They don’t sell a product (the internet stuff is not much – if it was they would make you pay to use it). So eventually this will fail because at some point, people will stop buying into this (ending Ijango’s incoming money), and there is no virtually product to sell. Then they will probably skip town.
The difference between Ijango and Amway, Mary Kay, etc. is that they actually sell products. So they can stay solvent with their products.
Hello,
Well, boy -oh – boy is there alot of hoopla out there. Ijango’s good, Ijango’s bad..
Im a professional internet marketer and apparently you guys know MLM and Scams way better than myself. Everybody is focused on the cost to signup, where is the product, ect. Did anybody think about just the revenue from the social site. Myspace has over 250,000,000 users. What if ijango just got say 10% thats 25,000,000 users. Can you figure out what the traffic would be, what the click revenue would be! The average google click is roughly $1.63 a click right now for a visitor. Now do the math…
Say ijango just got 250,000 clicks a day out of 25 million users. (again just for the social site) Times that by $1.63 and you have $407,500 in potential profit just for one day! Ok, now lets say ijango just got 10% of that to keep for themselves and members.. google keeps the rest. Your still at $40,750 a day. Well I rest my case.. can a company run on $1.2 million a month just on clicks and pay its members. I will let you figure that one out.
Not including all the other sales as shopping, downloads, ect.
You guys are focused on the wrong thing here. I actually do hope ijango makes it just like I hope that our current president does a great job and shuts everybody up that says he was going to fail.
As far as camerons past… well that kinda stinks. I will agree with you guys on that one. Im just kind of sick of everybody screaming “scam”. I agree with the lady earlier that says “Oh well im out $150 bucks” who cares!
If you guys are really worried about $150 bucks then maybe you should quit your jobs and take a risk once in a while.
Regards,
Probuilder
Hello,
Well, boy, -oh-boy.
You’re assuming 25 million users for iJango. Thats laughable when their website won’t even come up for simple query in Google for their name:
http://www.google.com/search?q=ijango&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Its also funny that their current home page consist of a login page.
Do you think MySpace got to 250 Million users with a ‘login page’ for their homepage? Hardly.
Google “MySpace” and see what comes up. 6 sites in the top 10 are actual sites or subdomains of Myspace with another 2 or 3 with Myspace being ‘in the news’.
http://www.google.com/search?q=myspace&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
iJango is built upon ‘open source software’, that means FREE. Do you think 25 million users can survive off FREE software to make their site work? No, in fact, the iJango site was down for the first 5 days after launch on their ‘free software platform’.
Comparing the two is pretty ignorant at best.
Its also pathetic that before a service or product launches that the guys behind iJango are trying to ‘optimize’ using SEO techniques for searches such as ‘ijango scam’.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=Zzo&q=ijango+scam&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g-s1
I’m not worried about losing $150. As they say, I don’t have a dog in the fight, but as a professional, its also my job to make sure my friends and family don’t get screwed when a ‘fly by night’ startup comes to Charlotte to take everyone to the cleaners.
Good luck, “Probuilder” or whatever your name is…
Wheres your boy Kieth, ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Better follow suit big boy you ain’t in Kansas no more. LOL.
ummm..Hi Mr. Anonymous. Do you think David got hacked? To a kiva.org (which is a worth while cause if you can’t figure that out) and to “Twestival” which he partakes in. Or do you think you’re clueless to what he’s actually doing. You should read up on redirects. No Mr. 71.75.80.137, I’m not in Kansas and neither are you.
Kudos Keith, you know how to use your computer. Still….the best is yet to come. Likely hack?! I’m sure he knows what he’s doing. I implore you to remind him to continue doing a what he’s good at. We need more, don’t you agree?
That’s Mrs. anonymous to you cutie!
I’m sure it is mrs. anonymous. your bantering is boring. do you know how to use a computer?
http://www.internetofficer.com/seo-tool/redirect-check/
its a 301 redirect. in your language that means you can only do it from the .htaccess file, which is on his server, which only he controls. I’ll sum it up for you: its not a hack. Its intentional. Did you see the site? Kiva.org – its about helping people less fortunate. Its not about scamming people and taking money. Its about giving to the needy. See the irony yet?
like i said…your boring. another boring post and your banned from my blog. bring me back something juicy and you can continue.
Whats pathetic is the fact that, by your earlier statement, you must assume google walked out one day and had the number one site in the world on day one.
Myspace, your comparing less than two weeks of a site/business to myspace, You know darn well what it took to get there.
Or facebook for pete’s sake, you had to be enrolled in college before you could be a member and it started at one place with one person.
You and kyle know absolutely nothing about how the model works, quit listening to “reps” who don’t even know what they’re doing right now.
You guys always pull out t&c’s I can only ask to do your due diligence right now and go back to the comp plan and look at the good news.
It will explain it all to you in two simple paragraphs. Trust me you’ve never seen these before, you’ll not like what you see.
It will prove you and all the rest wrong, trust me.
Keith,
I have no bug with you, I have no bug with David.
What he did, I knew about all along, I told my team about it. I thought it was funny that he got everybodies panties in a bunch, fueled the fire, more traffic, more backlinks, absolutely great 1st page google then does a simple redirect.. and he has done it before.
Nothing new..
Build links, Get good Google 1st page for links, future organic traffic..
Redirect…
Simple and effective.. I dont work this way but if he does more power to him. I will agree he did open my eyes on a few things and had some great information on his blogg.
I absolutely love that his members are now screaming “WTF” happened and think he sold out..lol..
Thats not my words thats theirs…
The guy knows his seo.. “Clap Clap” I also no alot of information that most of the general public has no clue about and thats why im still sticking with ijango.
My business is doing great, my team is building, we are all having a great time…
Oh yeah its not a 301 redirect its a simple redirect via cpanel from the little tab called “redirects”.
Basic whm 101….
Anyway good blogg, good luck with what ever it is that you do.. Congrats on david for pulling the wool over everybodies eyes. I had an excellent day yesterday when my fortold redirect theory came true..lol..
Regards,
Probuilder
Probuilder,
Cool.
Regarding the redirect:
Wrong – It is a 301 (could be a 302) according to the link. The problem with .htaccess files is you can’t access them. Only the admin can. There can be lots of sensitive data in an .htaccess file which is why it is ‘locked down’ per se.
Basic whm 101, not exactly. What is a cpanel? – its an ‘admin panel’ to control files on your server, among other things, such as email accounts, raw log files, etc. You can access files on a server without a cpanel. Which is exactly what I do. If I want to change code in my .htaccess file, I download it and change it, then reupload it. Your cpanel does the same thing for the particular file. So a redirect is a redirect is a redirect. Regardless if you do it THROUGH cpanel or yourself.
Regarding David:
I can’t say what David’s doing (wink wink) – but we’ll soon find out
Hey Keith,
Thanks for the nice post back. I am not here to stir the pot or ruffel any feathers. I’ve done my homework on ijango, no seriously over 100+ hours worth… and I watched it develope for 30+ days. Ive talked with the top people, asked questions..ect. I know how to read links, look at code, view stuff that nobody else really has any idea about. I personally have been on the net for over 20 years and use to run computers for large cities. Los angeles, california in perticular for the library systems on main frames for over 100 branches. Ive developed and built thousands of websites. Ive promoted thousands more. I personally still own over 200+ and every single one of them are doing very well..
Im not a hacker, websites are just a hobby I love to do..
So with that in reference everybody comes from a different level. Some people buy little programs to copy and paste to build websites, some use dreamweaver, ect…
Then the next level you have guys that buy websites, and tweak them… then you have people that really know there stuff..
Im one of the above..lol.. I will let you figure that one out.. But again its nice to see a fresh post not completely ripping ijango apart. Ive been telling people for weeks to watch for the redirects… and they came.
As far as the .htaccess files again some people upload, download, what ever to get into them and do the redirects.
I simply get right into the hosting, via cpanel, get directly into the coding, do what I need, hit save and we are done..
Cpanel does have a “redirect” option… and its very easy to do….
One good example of that .htaccess file is banning sites from seeing your site. I had a site that was getting over 600,000 visitor a day and bogging down my other 200 sites so we did a little research and found out it was a mainstream chinese company that was just flooding our site. We go into the .htaccess file, put a simple code in and banned the whole country…lol..
Most people would have no clue..
Anyway as far as whm, cpanel, what ever im a pro there. Ive got full access and control of my dedicated servers, customers dedicateds, and large companies servers.
But I guess my main topic on this post was not to boost myself because most people have no clue who I am.. and that is the way I like it…I was actually expecting to see another rip on ijango. So once again thanks for the nice response. For My ijango business Ive got a full training center in place for my team and we are all doing very well, i’ve got over 20 years of marketing experience and knowlege for all of my “Team Leaders” – “Directors” all completely free at there disposal..
Do I have to do this? Absolutely not!
Am I doing this? Yes!
Im making sure my directors and team leaders go about this the correct way… and im making sure that every single one of them will succeed!
The problem is…
Most people just signup as many people as they can and leave them to hang!
Thats why people fail… its not the business model, its who they are following. Why would I signup under “Joe Smith” if “Joe Smith” has never made a cent on the internet?
I Don’t want “Joe Smith” To Lead me…because I can guarantee you “Joe Smith” will fail unless he has some sort of angel on his shoulder….
So in retrospect I can understand why everybody is screaming scam. They signed up under the wrong person who really could care less about them or there success from other MLM’s.
I guess I would be doing the same thing… but im not. Ive dedicated myself to my directors and team leaders and I will continue to weither ijango fails or succeeds at least I know I helped my team out!
Hey once again, Thanks for the nice response, you kind of made my night.
Regards,
Probuilder
Hello,
And with that in mind If ijango is a scam then shame, shame on them but im always rooting for the underdog so only time will tell.
As for now all I can see is attacks by the BBB that Ijango “Might” or “Possibly” be a scam.
Ive read all the reports and viewed all the tweets, seen all the news reports, viewed all the mlm reviews, and even keep track on the BBB report.
So far I see a report that is fueled by complaints that the site didn’t launch in time and everybody is crying about it..
Im not doing ijango for the money I just enjoy the challenge of promoting sites. Hopefully this all pans out and either way its going to be a learning lesson just life is. For the good or bad…
Should be interesting….
Thanks
It’s easy to see how easy it is for scams proliferate when I read some of the posts on this blog. There are so many gullible people, so many people who think there’s an easy way to make money without having to do any work, so many people who are willing to ignore all the evidence (i.e., the fact that the guy behind iJango ran completely shady business scams in the recent past), all for the ridiculous hope that maybe this is their big chance to get in on the proverbial bottom floor and get rich quick. It’s really sad but not surprising. Here’s the way it works, folks. You pay a relatively small amount of money (in this case $150.00). If it turns out to be BS, you figure you’re only out $150.00 so it won’t kill you. If Cameron Sharpe can convince 100,000 of you to part with your small amount of money, he gets $15 million. He’s guaranteed to win and hopefully you won’t bother suing him because, after all, it’s only $150.00. The strange thing about gullible people is they never give up hope on finding that brass ring. I know a person who buys into every crap scam out there. He never gives up on losing his money.
Just out of curiosity, what led you to spend so much time bashing iJango? I seriously would like to know. Is the company that bad or were you jilted by someone affiliated with the company?
It sounds like you have a personal vendetta with no absolute proof that this one is actually a scam.
Like most that are willing to take a chance, I would see no problem investing $150 to give it a shot. I guess being from ‘Vegas, I am just naturally a gambling man, and I surely don’t think that measly amount will make me feel like I was getting scammed!
Call me stupid or whatever you like, just show me where to sign up!
Well, the initial post took about 30 seconds, so its not that much time, though its still ‘time’.
In case you missed David’s post, it explains everything. I prefer not to go into it as he covered it well. I spent my time on LocaladLink which is a joke too. Theres plenty of counterpoints as to why its not good for biz owners.
Back to iJango. Why did I get involved? As mentioned on this comment, which I take you didn’t read, I look out for friends rather than take their money. Sorry, its just how I was raised.
wow Probuilder..you think because someone knows how to do a 301 redirect that they are some SEO genius.
Just because you know how to use dreamweaver, htaccess, or whatever doesn’t give you a license to call yourself an SEO.
1. your site at Ijango is created on a subdomain AND no link from the homepage to it so it’s basically a new domain to Google. That means that every Ijango rep has to build backlinks/content to their Ijango page in order for them to rank on Google OR they can tell their friends/families about it and HOPE that their friends will use it. How many friends/families does everyone have? How many sales do you think will happen from generating traffic from using twitter or other social media platforms?? How about HARDLY ANYTHING OR NOTHING AT ALL.
2. With so much negativity around Ijango…who would want to use their portal to purchase any kind of products? I wouldnt want to put my login, credit card information, or any other private information in their portal. I rather go directly to Amazon, Paypal, Ebay, or the company’s website DIRECTLY to do business with them.
If something happens with my information, I rather deal with 1 company than 2. Going through Ijango is only opening the door for your private information to be sold/stolen.
3. So this leaves the recruiting part for a rep to make money.
No need to lie or to try to sell anything here Probuilder
Ijango will soon be closing up shop before you know it.
They have already taken down their page at meetup.com when it’s prepaid
http://www.meetup.com/ijango
4. Also…where is the video of Cameron driving the maserati? Did Ijango receive permission from Maserati to use their car in the promotional video?
Regarding user – IJango:
What did you read? I wasn’t saying that anybody was an Seo genius because they can do a simple redirect. What I was saying is its exactly that… “it is a simple redirect” maybe you should go re-read it a couple of times.
“Just because you know how to use dreamweaver, htaccess, or whatever doesn’t give you a license to call yourself an SEO.”
Where the heck did you read that at. I never said I was an SEO? If you knew anything Seo is search engine optimization. So Im assuming you meant “call myself an seo company” but in your wild huff you were not completing your sentences correctly.
Oh by the way you cant be on the net for 20 years, have tens of thousands of hours under your belt and not know a few things.. For instance there is a reason why you chose your username to get your comments in google under that exact keyword. (but thats besides the point)
What I was saying is that somebody was gunning for ijango in the beginning. How did they get reports filed on them from cities they have not even been in yet before launch? So if you want to be rude and know what my honest oponion is… here you go!
I think the company launched way to soon… should have had all the technical stuff ready..
I think that all the past people they have delt with and maybe screwed are now coming out of the woodwork to bit them in the butt and attacking the company.
I think there is a ton of other MLM’ers out there afraid and just trying to ride this ijango buzz to build themselves up.
I think there are way too many followers in the world. Our country needs leaders and apparently there is not alot of them out there as everybody seems to just be copy and pasting info all over.
Ive seen reports that “97% of people in ijango failed” before the site even launched. How the hell does that happen? Simple desperate money hungry mlm’ers trying to recruit people into there businesses before ijango launches.. (and im not talking about the google ads that people are running. Im talking about on other bloggs and forums)
Ive seen people simply posting crap on the net everywhere. “It doesn’t work”, “I signed up and failed the next day”, “reports”, ect… its everywhere…
How the heck do you signup for anything and fail the next day? How because your a looser.. thats how!
And the SEO’ers with there black hat tricks.. Ive seen it all!
You want to know my personal oponion I think its sad that so many people are out for themselves now -a- days!
Even the people in ijango – You got people saying or doing anything to just get somebody in and ive discussed this with the ijango people. (sorry I have ethics)
You have people claiming that they are making $7,000 a week.
You have people trying to hire people into ijango.
You have people with just outragous stupid claims because they just have no idea on how to do the business.
On the other end….. Everybody bashing ijango:
You have these people saying “Man it didnt work for me” and there post was weeks before ijango even launched.
You have complaints to certain business bureau’s that are going rampant now… and there complaints are that the ijango portal didn’t work the day of launch.. simply crying… thats why its called beta! Every new site has bugs…
Here is my agreement with the complaints is the site should have been ready and not gone on its beta trial to the average person now -a- days that bitches and cries because the line in the store is too long or the hotel room is to hot. As a society we have huge problems…. Do you think 100 years ago people cried as much as they do today… The answer – NOPE!
We are now a society of “I want it now!” and if they don’t get it they cry and whine… and blame it on the company instead of themselves. A business takes work, people are lazy, and if its not handed to them on a silver platter then they whine and cry and say it didnt work or it was a scam.. simple as that…
When was the last time you saw 5 city workers digging a whole. 4 holding shovels, 1 digging…. (no offense to city workers of course..lol..)
Anyway to concluded Im just sitting in the wings now waiting to see what happens. If ijango takes a dive… well fine… if it pulls out of this…well fine…
One funny thing I found out is that everybody bitches about something. Especially in these bloggs and forums… People are still saying negative things about MLM companies that have been around for decades. I guess its just the nature of the beast.
To me it seems like a bunch of hungry car sales men all trying to fight over the one customer that comes in to buy a car and they all think there car is the best. So they belittle everybody else to try to get the sale.
Pretty sad if you ask me…
What comes out of it.. Only time will tell as ive said before. Is this my lively hood? Nope, I could actually careless eitherway to be honest. If it succeeds.. it succeeds and if it fails.. it fails.
Everything comes full circle…
We will see what happens..
Regards,
Probuilder
Couple more thoughts then I will shut up…
If Ijango was this huge scam.. why hasn’t google pulled there adwords account yet?
If there was any wrong doing that account would have been shut down immediately, but the ads are still running as of now…
Why are all the shopping feeds still live?
Any wrong doing and all these accounts and feeds would have been pulled instantly.. by the providers not the users…
Look I was brought up to be ethical and true, I dont lie, I dont steal from people thats just how I was brought up.
Ive got a great team going and I fully support and train them. 100% of my team has been successful so far. Why because im not just slamming them in and leaving them. They are getting training on how to market (no black hat crap like alot of people are doing). Just ethical methods “white hat” and so far its working well..
If ijango does take the plunge like so many of you guys are thinking it will.. I have no problem taking care of all my team members and I will and they all know that…
If all this negative hype turns and all of a sudden we start seeing the “ijango isnt a scam after all” then we are going to be way ahead of our competetion..
Its that simple.
Either it will succeed, or it won’t succeed…
Im monitoring new information daily to see what does come out and thats how I have found all this information, good or bad… mostly bad from people just trying to get new people into there mlm’s… but mostly posts that have no facts. Just a “might”, or “probably” be a scam..
Until I see some good hard evidence such as google pulling there account or deactivating it or the shopping feeds being pulled…
Im still pretty much unbiased. As ive said before it will or it will not..
but that still doesnt mean Im going to join some other mlm company because they bash the heck out of one comapny to make themselves look better.. On the contrary.. that just makes the other company look way worse in my eyes…
Ok im done… I have never seen so much buzz and negativity on a class of people ever.. if this is what the MLM industry is all about then.. thats pretty sad….
Regards,
Probuilder
Probbuilder,
I read your blog and it makes some convincing arguments. But my issue is not on the technical side but rather the comp side. Rod Cook (mlmwatchdog) wrote an interesting piece on the Ijango comp system. Rod is well respected by many in the mlm world.
If the federal court in LA prevails against ignite, it would likely result in radical changes in the comp system and may make it very difficult if not impossible to make it work.
I like you really love the Ijango approach. But they have not handled the media hype well at all and more importantly, a torpedo may have already been launched but has not hit Ijango with regard to the comp system. To me, that is the achilles heal.
Ijango gets caught lying by CBS, BBB, and Texas
http://www.mlmhelpdesk.com/2009/08/20/mlm-scam-review-ijango-investigated-by-cbs-news-and-the-bbb-for-fraud/
http://www.cbs7.com/news/details.asp?ID=14448
direct link to cbs 7.
i agree ijango didnt look good to me at all i went mandura good luck you ijangos
This will be my last post Im getting really sick of addressing people calling anything a scam…
Plus I just read a few articles about the BBB – One was that the BBB 49 presidents are signing some type of letter to tell the president to hurry up and give the autodealers there money for cash for clunkers. (personally they just need to mind there own fricken business if you ask me… sounds like a bunch of old retired people who have nothing better to do than sit around and see who they can harass next) – No offense anybody it just pisses me off…
Another article saying that businesses have been getting “F” ratings from the BBB because they didn’t become a member of the BBB? What? So im not a member your going to give me an “F” last time I checked this was america and I have the freedom to choose what I wanted to do. Am I right? Just curious… Ok so Here is the scam that I see… pay us or we are going to give you an “F” rating and pressure you into becoming a member…
As far as the two links above this one… the news just goes with what ever the public wants to hear. If its negative and they can get a few extra rating points they are going to show it. Thats why I stopped watching the news. Got sick of hearing who got murdered, who was going to jail, who killed who.. Gets old after a while…
Keep watching the news.. They got ahold of the BBB’s records… 1000 inquiries about ijango, 3 complaints that the site was slow….
Nothing more, no scam, no this and no that like everybody is posting… Not hundreds like they said.. just “3″ (sites slow).. Boo Hoo… a site was slow for a day.. shame on us.. sorry we are human…
The BBB will soon be posting a retraction or upgrading there rating.. what ever.. to be honest I really dont care anymore. Im sick of reading all the false scam reports, everybody trying to prove to everybody else that it is or isnt..
Guys I dont care anymore!! Do your du diligence…Out of the over 100 hours I put into just doing research on ijango to find out if it was a scam or not… I found out alot of stuff.
The number one thing I found…. people are stupid and will post anything without any real facts or proof…
Ok im already getting board with this post.. If you think its a scam…. stay away, dont signup, go away, go do something else.. dont just copy and paste crap all over the net..
If you want to try it, signup…
I can guarantee you things are going to be changing really quickly here…
Im already seeing the people that started all this crap about ijango backing out and saying… OOps maybe I was wrong..OOps maybe there wasnt really 1000’s of compaints…OOPS..OOPS…
Im not suprised.. I new it all along… especially when I saw posts such as “i failed at ijango”., “I tried it and lost all my money”.. and they were dated weeks before the launch.
One was funny… “I tried ijango and went completely broke”, maybe some of you guys read that one… Ok how is $150 going to completely break you when ijango wasnt available to anybody at the time of post…
anyway Keith thanks for the blog, its been fun, Im going back to do what I do best and thats promote sites. Im done playing everybodies game of here look at this…. no look at this… no its like this… no its this… ok I got it.. here is the link..
who cares people, do something better with your time. Find a hobby, go take your kids out.. something..
The cameron sharp thing is done.. he is not affiliated with ijango anymore.. so all you guys who are still posting old news… ok, thats old news… BLA BLA BLA scam artist BLA BLA.. BLA take all your money BLA BLA BLA.. Does not apply anymore…
Alright much success to all..
Have a great day…
Probuilder
P.s. Keep up on current news and if ijango does happend to be a legit company (which I think it is) why dont all you guys do and post some positive stuff… the world needs more positive people and positive stuff to read.. You would be amazed how your kharma can change just by trying to be positive and nice once in a while…
Incase you guys like to read here you go:
http://www.mechanicsresponds.com/ (read and scroll to bottom)
I had about 30+ links just like this here but this site found it spammy. Im not trying to spam.. just showing you guys there is 2 sides to every story and you what this is not my point of view. Its people just like you who commented not me:)
Thanks
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