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		<title>By: mibearings</title>
		<link>http://www.ontopresults.com/2009/08/11/i-love-spammers-especially-those-that-spam-my-client/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>mibearings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, So far, My rankings in google have not changed, except for my rankings for &quot;Front Wheel Bearings&quot;, but I am still no page 3, which means nothing.
Rankings have went down in yahoo, probably just regular fluctuation.
will be canceling very soon.
Don&#039;t waste your time with these people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, So far, My rankings in google have not changed, except for my rankings for &#8220;Front Wheel Bearings&#8221;, but I am still no page 3, which means nothing.<br />
Rankings have went down in yahoo, probably just regular fluctuation.<br />
will be canceling very soon.<br />
Don&#8217;t waste your time with these people.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Schilling</title>
		<link>http://www.ontopresults.com/2009/08/11/i-love-spammers-especially-those-that-spam-my-client/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Schilling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering how deceptive Venkat has been on this blog post about his company, I wouldn&#039;t touch these guys with a 10 foot pole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering how deceptive Venkat has been on this blog post about his company, I wouldn&#8217;t touch these guys with a 10 foot pole.</p>
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		<title>By: mibearings</title>
		<link>http://www.ontopresults.com/2009/08/11/i-love-spammers-especially-those-that-spam-my-client/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>mibearings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing to report as far as their SEO services for me.
They say that they have made me some one way links.
In the beginning they also said it would take 8-10 weeks to get my site ranked highly, that&#039;s past the trial period. I&#039;m not paying them $200, unless I see some improvement for the targeted keywords, but that&#039;s not going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing to report as far as their SEO services for me.<br />
They say that they have made me some one way links.<br />
In the beginning they also said it would take 8-10 weeks to get my site ranked highly, that&#8217;s past the trial period. I&#8217;m not paying them $200, unless I see some improvement for the targeted keywords, but that&#8217;s not going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Schilling</title>
		<link>http://www.ontopresults.com/2009/08/11/i-love-spammers-especially-those-that-spam-my-client/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Schilling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. You almost had me Venkat.  I&#039;m slightly puking in my mouth. You know whats funny about my Joomla based Chronoforms? They capture the IP address of everyone that fills out a form on my site (or my clients site).

And what do you know?

Here&#039;s the form..pasted in its entirety.


fields_email	trrankingtop@gmail.com
fields_fname	Sales
fields_lname	Team
fields_phone	202 657 7095
fields_address1	221, 6th Block, Malleshwaram
fields_address2
fields_city	Bangalore
fields_state	Kansas
fields_zip	309804
fields_comments	Subject: SEO Trial Offer – Hifutristate.com Dear Head of Business Development at Hifutristate.com, If you&#039;re interested in showing up as a first page result for more search terms on Google, Yahoo and Bing, reply back with all addresses you&#039;re looking to promote. I thought you might like to know some of the reasons why you are not getting more organic (free) search engine traffic for hifutristate.com 1. Your home page rank is 0, this can be improved further. 2. Open directory listing is not available. 3. Your site has 0 Yahoo back links, this can be improved further. We are looking forward in doing business with your company and we are certain that you will be HAPPY with this business connection. For your convenience we offer 30 day FREE trial. Please email or call us today USA Toll Free: 8888 TRYSEO USA Direct: 202.657.5242 UK: 207.193.0857 Australia: 28.011.3995 India: 674.258.2780 Best Regards Sales Team -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PS: This is one time email; we will not contact you again if you do not respond to this email. You may also ask us to “remove”. PPS: We will be happy to provide our information like 24x7 CRM support, Skype, Web-based live chat, video conference, go to meeting, IM etc. upon getting response from you.
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Hilarious Venkat huh?  And heres a snapshot of my analytics and the number of times you&#039;ve hit my site:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.ontopresultsllc.com/news/postpics/venkat.png&quot; alt=&quot;venkat spammer&quot; /&gt;

Notice that IP address?  Did you really think you could post anonymously and act like your company was just peachy?

Care to comment?  You guys need to step up your SEO abilities and quit spamming my clients and everyone else.  Good luck, you&#039;re going to need it.

I&#039;ll leave you the opportunity to apologize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. You almost had me Venkat.  I&#8217;m slightly puking in my mouth. You know whats funny about my Joomla based Chronoforms? They capture the IP address of everyone that fills out a form on my site (or my clients site).</p>
<p>And what do you know?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the form..pasted in its entirety.</p>
<p>fields_email	<a href="mailto:trrankingtop@gmail.com">trrankingtop@gmail.com</a><br />
fields_fname	Sales<br />
fields_lname	Team<br />
fields_phone	202 657 7095<br />
fields_address1	221, 6th Block, Malleshwaram<br />
fields_address2<br />
fields_city	Bangalore<br />
fields_state	Kansas<br />
fields_zip	309804<br />
fields_comments	Subject: SEO Trial Offer – Hifutristate.com Dear Head of Business Development at Hifutristate.com, If you&#8217;re interested in showing up as a first page result for more search terms on Google, Yahoo and Bing, reply back with all addresses you&#8217;re looking to promote. I thought you might like to know some of the reasons why you are not getting more organic (free) search engine traffic for hifutristate.com 1. Your home page rank is 0, this can be improved further. 2. Open directory listing is not available. 3. Your site has 0 Yahoo back links, this can be improved further. We are looking forward in doing business with your company and we are certain that you will be HAPPY with this business connection. For your convenience we offer 30 day FREE trial. Please email or call us today USA Toll Free: 8888 TRYSEO USA Direct: 202.657.5242 UK: 207.193.0857 Australia: 28.011.3995 India: 674.258.2780 Best Regards Sales Team &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; PS: This is one time email; we will not contact you again if you do not respond to this email. You may also ask us to “remove”. PPS: We will be happy to provide our information like 24&#215;7 CRM support, Skype, Web-based live chat, video conference, go to meeting, IM etc. upon getting response from you.<br />
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<p>Hilarious Venkat huh?  And heres a snapshot of my analytics and the number of times you&#8217;ve hit my site:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.ontopresultsllc.com/news/postpics/venkat.png" alt="venkat spammer" /></p>
<p>Notice that IP address?  Did you really think you could post anonymously and act like your company was just peachy?</p>
<p>Care to comment?  You guys need to step up your SEO abilities and quit spamming my clients and everyone else.  Good luck, you&#8217;re going to need it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll leave you the opportunity to apologize.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Schilling</title>
		<link>http://www.ontopresults.com/2009/08/11/i-love-spammers-especially-those-that-spam-my-client/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Schilling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Venkat,
Because the reason I created this post in the first place is because they spammed my client.  If you&#039;re telling me that you&#039;re thinking about hiring them, then you&#039;re hiring a company that spams for business.  Any SEO firm that &#039;spams&#039; for business is a joke. They&#039;re supposed to be generating leads for companies because they have SEO expertise and can rank a website.  Then why aren&#039;t they ranking themselves to generate their own business?

ISO certification means absolutely nothing in the SEO field.
http://www.bin.co.uk/IMS_May_2002.pdf

Are you familiar with the most popular SEO experts in the industry? Aaron Wall, Danny Sullivan, etc. These guys are not ISO certified and are the &#039;founders&#039; of SEO knowledge.

You can&#039;t claim a certification in a field, i.e. SEO, without it being backed by a legitimate organization and recognized worldwide.  Google would never allow certification in SEO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Venkat,<br />
Because the reason I created this post in the first place is because they spammed my client.  If you&#8217;re telling me that you&#8217;re thinking about hiring them, then you&#8217;re hiring a company that spams for business.  Any SEO firm that &#8217;spams&#8217; for business is a joke. They&#8217;re supposed to be generating leads for companies because they have SEO expertise and can rank a website.  Then why aren&#8217;t they ranking themselves to generate their own business?</p>
<p>ISO certification means absolutely nothing in the SEO field.<br />
<a href="http://www.bin.co.uk/IMS_May_2002.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bin.co.uk/IMS_May_2002.pdf</a></p>
<p>Are you familiar with the most popular SEO experts in the industry? Aaron Wall, Danny Sullivan, etc. These guys are not ISO certified and are the &#8216;founders&#8217; of SEO knowledge.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t claim a certification in a field, i.e. SEO, without it being backed by a legitimate organization and recognized worldwide.  Google would never allow certification in SEO.</p>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
		<link>http://www.ontopresults.com/2009/08/11/i-love-spammers-especially-those-that-spam-my-client/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI,
Thanks for the update, you missed my another important query, which will allow me to finally make a decision. &quot;why/how you think the people I am planning to go with are spamming my business.&quot; because they have proven credibilities and niche clients with ISO certification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI,<br />
Thanks for the update, you missed my another important query, which will allow me to finally make a decision. &#8220;why/how you think the people I am planning to go with are spamming my business.&#8221; because they have proven credibilities and niche clients with ISO certification.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Schilling</title>
		<link>http://www.ontopresults.com/2009/08/11/i-love-spammers-especially-those-that-spam-my-client/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Schilling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not true. A long tail keyphrase is one thats simply not searched as much, hence the competition for that phrase is low, which in turn means theres no effort to rank it successfully.

You always have to look at the total number of results at the top right to determine how competitive a phrase is.

For you other request, searchengineland has a nice article.
http://searchenginewatch.com/3627562</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true. A long tail keyphrase is one thats simply not searched as much, hence the competition for that phrase is low, which in turn means theres no effort to rank it successfully.</p>
<p>You always have to look at the total number of results at the top right to determine how competitive a phrase is.</p>
<p>For you other request, searchengineland has a nice article.<br />
<a href="http://searchenginewatch.com/3627562" rel="nofollow">http://searchenginewatch.com/3627562</a></p>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
		<link>http://www.ontopresults.com/2009/08/11/i-love-spammers-especially-those-that-spam-my-client/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have learnt from the web(Google) that long tail keywords are those which are 3 or more words searched together. In that case “Charlotte SEO” is not categorized as long tail keyword? as suggested by you.

Wait for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have learnt from the web(Google) that long tail keywords are those which are 3 or more words searched together. In that case “Charlotte SEO” is not categorized as long tail keyword? as suggested by you.</p>
<p>Wait for your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
		<link>http://www.ontopresults.com/2009/08/11/i-love-spammers-especially-those-that-spam-my-client/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 06:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update. But, as a beginner into the world of SEO, I would appreciate your help if you can tell me how do I choose my SEO service provider and why/how you think the people I am planning to go with are spamming my business.
I apologize if I am sounding silly but your inputs are greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update. But, as a beginner into the world of SEO, I would appreciate your help if you can tell me how do I choose my SEO service provider and why/how you think the people I am planning to go with are spamming my business.<br />
I apologize if I am sounding silly but your inputs are greatly appreciated.<br />
Thanks in advance!</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Schilling</title>
		<link>http://www.ontopresults.com/2009/08/11/i-love-spammers-especially-those-that-spam-my-client/#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Schilling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venkat, why would you sign up with a company that spams for your business?

Long tail:
Google &quot;Charlotte SEO&quot; -
http://www.google.com/search?q=charlotte+seo&amp;sourceid=navclient-ff&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS289US289

Top right - Results 1 - 10 of about 999,000 for charlotte seo.

Theres only 1 million competing (and most are not competing) pages for that phrase. I&#039;m on page one (www.charlotteseo.org) and I&#039;ve never done one thing to rank the site except launch it.

Google &quot;real estate marketing&quot;
Results 1 - 10 of about 99,700,000 for real estate marketing.

Competition is up fierce right?  Now an SEO company has to rank above and beyond 100 million other sites.

Price for the first: $50 bucks. Results: Immediate. Why? Long tail

Price for the second: $15k.  Results: 1 year to 2 years if you&#039;re lucky. Why? Short tail keyphrase.

(By the way) On Top Results is number 12 for that second phrase. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venkat, why would you sign up with a company that spams for your business?</p>
<p>Long tail:<br />
Google &#8220;Charlotte SEO&#8221; -<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=charlotte+seo&amp;sourceid=navclient-ff&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS289US289" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=charlotte+seo&amp;sourceid=navclient-ff&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS289US289</a></p>
<p>Top right &#8211; Results 1 &#8211; 10 of about 999,000 for charlotte seo.</p>
<p>Theres only 1 million competing (and most are not competing) pages for that phrase. I&#8217;m on page one (www.charlotteseo.org) and I&#8217;ve never done one thing to rank the site except launch it.</p>
<p>Google &#8220;real estate marketing&#8221;<br />
Results 1 &#8211; 10 of about 99,700,000 for real estate marketing.</p>
<p>Competition is up fierce right?  Now an SEO company has to rank above and beyond 100 million other sites.</p>
<p>Price for the first: $50 bucks. Results: Immediate. Why? Long tail</p>
<p>Price for the second: $15k.  Results: 1 year to 2 years if you&#8217;re lucky. Why? Short tail keyphrase.</p>
<p>(By the way) On Top Results is number 12 for that second phrase. <img src='http://www.ontopresults.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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